Is Erotica The Same As Porn?


Weeeeeelp… This had to happen at some point, right? You must have expected it.
No? Well that’s your own fault.

First, I should say that I originally wrote this piece for Inspired Quill in 2011. They haven’t taken it up, so I’ve decided to change up the title and post it here; reworked for 2014 and my current audience. That’s you fine people.


So… IS erotica the same as porn? In a word… no. In two words; ‘fuck no.’ In several words… see below.

I want to talk about both erotica and porn in a grown up *snerk* and sensible way. Just to make it clear (to you) what I mean when I say I write ‘smut’ or ‘erotica’ or ‘porn.’ Okay?

Goodie. Let’s go.

The Collins English Dictionary (yeah, I know, but bear with me) defines pornography as; ‘writings, pictures, or films designed to be sexually exciting’ while defining erotica as; ‘explicitly sexual literature or art.’ Both of these, I feel, need a little examination.

First, let’s take pornography as defined by the Collins English Dictionary. Films and pictures aside, there are very few novels I have read that I would describe as pornography or pornographic, even though there are sections within them which I found sexually exciting. These novels, at their core, have been thrillers, horror or fantasy books, with only the smallest, normally negligible focus on sexual relationships. Similarly, novels or short stories I have read, which were specifically designed to be sexually exciting or stimulating, were neither of these things. In fact they were downright hilarious and often foolish.

When I ask people what they think pornography actually is, the general consensus seems to be that pornography is designed only to provide sexual stimulation and often does so through explicit and/or vulgar images, words and sounds. People also tell me that they feel pornography has no discernible plot and that it is put together in a manner that is both demeaning and degrading for those involved and for those watching. They feel that it is dirty.

Oh well.

In truth, very few people will admit to watching or reading porn. They feel embarrassed by it and the old joke about locking oneself in the bathroom with a ‘dirty magazine’ seems to strike true. Pornography, it seems, is something to be enjoyed alone, behind closed doors and in utter secret.

A far cry from the definition provided by Collins, right?

Erotica is something else entirely. I’ve read several (that might be an understatement, actually) books which claim to be collections of erotic short stories and poems and I have found these incredibly enjoyable. Many of these were indeed sexually exciting with overtly explicit narrative, while others were soft, gentle tales which actually left everything remotely sexual to the imagination of the reader. It was these stories that I found a deal more powerful. In fact, even though these collections are described as erotica, I find them closer to romance as defined by bookshop style genre labelling.

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Romance novels (I refer mainly to Mills and Boon) are designed to tell a story about life and emotions. They are an escapism, in which the final happy ending is almost guaranteed. These novels manage to tell their stories just as well with references to sex as they do without and at the end of it all, boy and girl live happily ever after (I’m yet to find any Mills and Boon featuring homosexual relationships as the primary plot, though it has been a while since I last picked one up). This seems to fit perfectly with the Collins English Dictionary definition of romance (one of many) which reads; ‘a story or film dealing with events and characters remote from ordinary life.’

Isn’t that interesting? It seems to be that while pornography is gritty, dirty and frowned upon, erotica is sensual, emotional and idealised. Neither of these match up with what Collins has to say.

In 1787 The Marquis de Sade (Donatien Alphonse François de Sade) wrote a short story called Justine. It was published in 1791 and told the story of a 12 year old girl named Justine who travelled to France in a ‘quest for virtue.’ Though certainly less explicit than some of his later work, de Sade describes a long list of sexual ordeals this girl must go through before she ends up in prison after being found guilty of theft. The ‘abominable’ book was later ordered destroyed in 1815.

Now in 2014, I doubt very much that a reader within the age brackets of 20–45 would be in the least bit concerned at the ‘pornographic’ nature of the book. They may even call it ‘erotic.’ Even Wikipedia classifies the work as a ‘classic erotic novel.’ Yet at the time of its original publication, the work was condemned and de Sade was jailed for the last 13 years of his life.

Sucks to be him, right?

Kajira symbol from John Norman's Gor books

Credit: AnonMoos @ Wiki Commons

Related to this, the Gor series, begun in 1966 by John Norman, features a fantasy world in which women are naturally and happily submissive to the wills of the men who keep them as slaves. Though the first few books don’t exclusively document the dominance of men over women in a sexual sense, as the series progresses this becomes more and more obvious.

There are certainly thousands, if not millions of people who find these books sexually exciting and would describe them not as pornography, but as erotica. There are others who feel so strongly about the ideas that Norman offers, that they have adapted their lifestyles to match those of the novels’ protagonists; keeping women as willing ‘slaves.’

From my own personal stand point, I feel that erotica tells a story. Though scenes, dialogue and themes of a sexual nature may be involved, it is not these things which make the story. They are a sideline or an enhancement and should not be graphic or gratuitous. Pornography, I feel, is designed to be exactly these things; it is gratuitous, it most certainly is graphic and most of all pornography is centred around a theme of pointless, plot-less sex. I feel that if you were to take the sex away from these stories, you would be left with characters that you do not care about because they are two dimensional and lifeless. Doing the same to erotica would still leave you with a story about people with real feelings, emotions, lives and thoughts.

My Meeting Each Other series would work just as well without the sex. They’d be a hell of a short shorter, but I hope that you would still care about the characters. Well… except for one story… coming up in the next few months is one of them that, even for me, rides the fine line between erotica and porn. Oh well.

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Slippers & Chains, even with its strong core of BDSM and D/s relationships is still just about a couple who want to get on with loving each other. ‘Smut with brains’ I like to call it. ^_^

I haven’t had any more trouble from this one member of my critique group. I don’t know how long they will remain quiet, but this post is cathartic as well as useful in explaining my thoughts on the matter. Maybe I’ll slip them a copy of this post next meeting.
…maybe not. -_-

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I Haz Planz – wc 20/02


Sick as a dog. It’s minging. o.O I won’t give you all the details, just say that I’ve pretty much been in bed for 36 hours and haven’t had a scrap to eat. *sigh* I like food. I miss food. .Why does it hate me so?

/selfpity

All that crap aside I’ve had a lovely week! I know, sounds odd, but following Ileandra’s freak out, I figured it would be sensible to follow suit in having a rest. The result has been a hell of a lot more work done! How does that make sense? It doesn’t, that’s how, but that’s what’s happened and I have a new shiny to show you.

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Woohoo! I survived!

Nice, right? I found the details of the submission weekend over on Jennifer’s blog and figured it would be daft not to send them something. After all, why on earth would I turn up my nose at a free, professional critique? Why would anybody?

So I sent in Slippers & Chains. ^_^

Within 24 hours (I know, right? Talk about a brilliant turn around!) I received a lovely email back from one of the editors at Breathless with some wonderful feedback about the opening scene and a clear way to improve. Something that I certainly wouldn’t have thought of myself, but very useful indeed. And the rest of the comments were incredibly encouraging.

Better yet, I have an invitation to submit to Breathless properly when the work is complete! It’s not a guarantee of acceptance or even a promise of ‘we’ll love this when we read it,’ but it is an acknowledgement that there is something in the story that caught their eye and means that it is worth perusing.

Well…! The Funk Master and I always thought this story had legs (*snerk* sorry, private joke) so it’s wonderful to know that others think so too. The positive response from my critique group as well as this latest critique puts me in a bright and sunny frame of mind with regards to this novella. I may even hold fire publishing through Little Vamp Press just to see what Breathless have to say on the matter.

Last week
~Continue reading my indie review book.
Done. It was… interesting. The review for that book should go out in my first post of March, so keep your eyes peeled for it. I’ve also downloaded the next one. Not started reading yet, but with a title like ‘The Life of Pie’ I’m sure I’ll be entertained!

~Start deep edits on ‘Eric & Morgan’
Eeeyup. I forgot how much I like this story. It seems somewhat more gentle than some of the other ones, but I think that’s mainly because I have a soft spot for Eric. Not sure why. Only a couple of pages, but, it’s a couple of pages more than I had done last week. And that’s what counts. Progress is progress. Baby steps add up.

~Make final decision on image for ‘Bill’ cover (on that note, this is a special project I’m working on with the folk on my mailing list. If you want to be involved in that there’s still time. Just join up now and become part of the behind-the-scenes fun).
There’s a poll running at the moment to choose from four potential images. I’m having quite a lot of fun with the subscribers talking about them actually, so, really, if you want to be involved just hit the link above. Sign up and you’ll get access to the private voting page to help me decide what I’m doing. It’s going to be good… let me tell ya.

Okay, that’s that. What about looking forward?

This Week

  • Start reading my indie review book for March

  • Start deep edits on ‘Eric & Morgan’

  • Write up review for February’s indie review book

  • Close the Slippers & Chains poll

That last one is getting to a point now. On 23 February 2014 voting will close and I’ll get started on producing files. Though, to be honest, I may have to hold fire on that until I hear back from Breathless. Regardless of whether they want the novella or not I’d still like your opinion however, so that I know how to proceed if I take the original publishing route. Remember, here is the poll.

Beyond that, all that remains is for me to say; have a good week! Don’t do what we’ve done and work yourself into a mess, take it easy, be realistic about your goals and, above all, remember to rest and take time for yourself if you need it.

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Mah Goals – wc 17/02 – REWIND!


Let’s try that again, shall we….

Meditating woman, lotus pose, yoga, buddhist

Aaaah, to be calm.
Credit: qubodup

I have a very nice day. Gentle. Calm. Almost stress free.

Do you know why?

Because I didn’t try to work.

I know lots of you are in a similar position to me; you write because you love it, but you have a family to care for. A house to run. Some of you even have jobs that keep you away 9-5 and then you have to come back and care for your family and run your house. I might not have the 9-5 job, but I do have my boys to look after, more constantly at the moment as my partner has a project on the go that’s eating all his time (and sanity).

Yesterday when I tried to get a bit more editing done I had a major freak out which seemed to be a culmination of dozens of things all at once. I broke my computer chair, kicked a bean bag (fortunately it was soft or that could have been a broken toe), ripped my top and ended up lying in bed trying to steady my breathing while cursing the world and everything in it. I eventually fell asleep. It was only a 20 minute ‘power nap’ but I was in a much better state of mind by the time I woke up.

Why am I telling you this?

For pity?
No… I don’t need that.

For laughs?
Pffft! There’s nothing funny about freaking out to the point that you end up in tears. So no, not that.

For sympathy?
Like pity, no, I don’t need or want that. This issue is self inflicted so, frankly put, I don’t deserve it.

No, I’m sharing this with you because I feel I owe it to you.
For several reasons:

  1. To be honest with you. This morning’s post was terrible and I’m not proud of it; I want to be completely honest with you about why that happened, not to make excuses, but so that you know. That’s all.
  2. To be honest with myself. Lying about what I can and can’t cope with is daft because in the long run it only leads to the destruction of much needed furniture. -_- I haven’t checked the chair yet; don’t know if I can use it any more, but I hope I can as I haven’t got a spare.
  3. To remind myself (and you for that matter) that I (and we) are not alone.

To clarify; everybody has bad days. Everybody has days when stress gets on top of them and the world seems to be snickering at them. Days when nothing goes right. Days we’re blocked. Days in which we don’t quite meet our goals. But we all have them and the key thing to remember is that failure isn’t one set back, failure is letting that one set back mess with the rest of your plans.

With that in mind I want to have another look at this week’s goals. I don’t often put personal or ‘real life’ goals in this list because they aren’t related to writing but not everything in my life can be about writing. I have to have a break some time. We all do.

This Week, Revisited

  • Recover. I did it to myself, but I need to spend some time being calm and taking care of myself. Reading. Catching up on my writing magazines.

Yep.
That’s it.
I mean it.

Anything else I get done this week is gravy, but I’ll not be forcing myself to do it. I need rest. More sleep. A recharge.

Next Monday, the last post of the month for me, I’ll talk about what’s coming up in March and beyond and restructuring the long term goals. A little ahead of schedule, but SMART goals are nowhere near as good as SMARTER goals and that’s what I try to set myself.

See you all next Monday.
Be gentle with yourselves.
x

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Mah Goals – wc 17/02


Burn out.

Two words. That’s all I can say.

It’s my own fault. But… yeah…. 😦

Last Week

Email/text/jump on the people in my ‘potential beta’ list and get some firm commitments
I got two. That’s better than when I started, but not as much as I was hoping. But better than when I started. Must. Focus. On. Positives.

Continue to transfer SORB back to digital (at least half)
Just four chapters shy of half. Pretty damn good considering last weekend stank of fail. Heh, I’m actually quite pleased about it. In hindsight.

This Week

  • Recover. I did it to myself, but I need to spend some time being calm and taking care of myself. Reading. Catching up on my writing magazines.
  • Continue to transfer SORB back to digital, at least 10 chapters

A nice gentle week. I think that’s what I need.

Sorry it’s such a short one, guys, but I’m so delicate right now. Maybe, in the week, if I can pull myself together, I’ll be back with something of my usual pep.

I’ve got some cool pictures to show you, for instance. The photoshoot went really well (I know I mentioned that) so there will be some pics soon.
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Ileandra’s January Indie eBook Review: The Last Dragon Slayer


Cover art for The Last Dragon Slayer

Credit: Martyn Stanley

Author: Martyn Stanley
Title: The Last Dragon Slayer (The Deathsworn Arc, Book 1)
Genre: Fantasy
ASIN: B009ECABOA
‘There is rumoured to be a noble dragon, an almost mythical beast, long thought to be extinct in Torea – terrorising a village in the north, at the foot of the Sky Cleaver mountains. Saul Karza, Emissary to the Empress and licensed magic user, has been sent by the empress herself to assemble a band of warriors to investigate, and if it is true to vanquish it.’


I love fantasy. I love sword and sorcery and I don’t read enough of it. This, as well as being my contribution to the year of book reviews, is to broaden my scope of these books.

Last week Raven talked about how we’re going to review these books. Well… I’m going to contradict her slightly. Maybe because I’m editing so heavily right now, or maybe because it’s Saturday and I’m on my way to a critique group, but I found it very hard to read this book as just a reader. I read it as an author and editor and a reader and am still having difficulty putting those first two aside. Then again, many of the issues I picked up as a reader would be apparent even if I wasn’t also the other two, though I probably wouldn’t be able to articulate them as well. *sigh*

Anyway, let’s go.


Cover:

five starsAmazing. I ADORE this cover. Just the right blend of light and dark, an immediate sense of what the book is about and strong, clear text that fits nicely with the image. I might have chosen a slightly different colour for the title text, but I’m not a designer. And that’s personal preference anyway. It’s a fantastic cover.
One point I should make though, is that, as an ebook you generally see cover images as thumbnails on Amazon, Smashwords, etc. It isn’t very clear when made small, because of all the dark colours, but the author name and title are still visible, which is certainly part of what you want from a cover.
My only other thought is actually about title; it ‘sounds cool’, but that’s not what it’s about. The actual dragon slayer the group picks up doesn’t do all that much. Unless of course I’m reading it wrong and the title refers to the slayer of the last dragon. o.O It’s ambiguous and not in a good way.

Story:

three starsI feel like I’ve read this book before. I haven’t, but there are elements within it that I’ve seen in many of the books in the genre that I have read. There are a couple of good twists on the tropes and some new insights (especially these hints about ‘The Truth’ that I sussed about half way through), but largely, it’s been done; a band of mismatched heroes go off to find and slay a dragon, picking up more team members on the way. Since this is a four book arc, I’m expecting more and, with the ending, there are certainly hints that the story will go in a new direction, but as the start of a four-book arc, more is needed to draw me on to the next one.

Characters:

two starsI’ve seen these characters before too. Haughty elf. Wise old wizard. Brash and thuggish barbarian who slowly learns his lesson. Even the dark elf reminded me somewhat of Drizzt Do’Urden from all those Forgotten Realms books (which I adore, by the way). While on the one hand it’s nice to see something familiar and well known, I wanted more.
Yes, the relationships between these characters are interesting, but because there are so many we never quite learn enough about them. There is a valiant effort to give us background and detail with which to connect to these characters, but there is no focal viewpoint, no main point of view. As a result, I’ve no idea whose story I’m reading and that is very distracting. I can’t get into anybody’s head or feel for them or with them. As a result, when a couple of deaths came at the end, I just kinda felt; ‘Meh. Oh well; sucks to be you.’ It feels like a wasted opportunity because there is plenty there to get stuck into.
Worse than that, a couple of the characters sounded so alike that I didn’t always know who I was reading about. The dialogue needed spicing up to make it more unique to each character’s voice. It also needed looking at to take out a bunch of contemporary colloquialisms that just don’t belong in epic fantasy or sword and sorcery.

Overall Reading Experience:

one and a half starsI was dreading this one. I wavered between one and two stars before copping out and stopping between the pair, simply because when I was reading the book I was keen to keep going. However, when I wasn’t reading, I just didn’t care. There was no real drive to get back to it.
The easiest way to encompass my feelings is to say this book needs a savage structural and developmental edit. As I described above, it’s all over the place and distracting to read. There seems to be a disturbing habit of using commas in place of full stops and that strange letter § (explained in the foreword) was just distracting. Every time I saw it in the text, whether it was narrative or dialogue I just skipped past the passage because I couldn’t figure out how to read it. In the end, it annoyed the hell out of me. The pace dips and peaks, but in the wrong places (at least for me), and there are lots of missed opportunities to do something new with a well known quest story.

Final Score:

three stars
Hmm. Rating across four points comes up at 2.8, which rounds up to three stars.

In closing I’m glad I read this book; I feel I’ve learned about my own tastes in doing so, which, of course I wouldn’t be able to do if I only read my own work. However I won’t be looking for the next ones in the series.

Why don’t you take a look and make up your minds on how you feel? Tell me what you think; I love getting into dialogue about these things.
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